Archives For November 30, 1999

Posted by Eric Reed

(New Orleans) — The outcome of Tuesday’s ballot on adopting the optional use of ‘Great Commission Baptists’ in addition to the official name Southern Baptist Convention was announced this morning– it was approved by a 52.48% vote.

The announcement of the tally was delayed yesterday, after a hand vote was too close to call and a ballot vote was required. Messengers debated the “name change” which would allow churches and SBC entities to use the descriptor, without changing the official name of the SBC.

The narrow margin of the vote reflects both strong opinions and ambivalence over the change, which would lessen the regional nature of the convention’a name. Floor debate included memorable comments from advocates. One church planter who was on the committee that recommended the name change said, “This motion helps church planters outside the south build a bridge to share Jesus.”

Another advocate, Micah Freeze of St. Joseph, MIssouri, said, “We are an incredibility diverse people. As we polled those Southern Baptists who live in the frontier areas, they said to us with strong voice that this would help them advance the gospel. For those who live in the hard areas, to push back the darkness, I don’t see how we can say no to them.”

But Gary Honeycutt of Arkansas countered, “I don’t care what you call your church, I care what you call the convention.”

Ted Traylor, pastor of Olive Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida, observed this morning, “I’m note sure we’re going to help ourselves by having a name and a half. We may just cause confusion….If Gateway Seminary wants to use the name, and it will help them, that’s good. But in New Orleans, being Southern Baptist is a good thing—especially after Hurricane Katrina. And in New York, after 9/11.”

The use of the description “Great Commission Baptists” will be a the discretion of local churches.

 

 

 

When you know Christ as a Christian you have been given much, therefore love much. …We have all been forgiven much, therefore love much….To be forgiven so much and love so little is the greatest sin of all.

David Uth, pastor of FBC Orlando, preaching the Convention Sermon at the SBC in New Orleans

From the Platform: Preaching Love

Posted by the IB Team

(New Orleans) — After messengers at the Southern Baptist Convention engaged in heated debate about the convention’s possible adoption of a new nickname for churches that choose to use it, a vote by raised ballots failed to produce a clear outcome. Later, messengers cast ballots, but the tally was not announced by the end of the first day’s sessions. Great Commission Baptists is the new descriptor name under consideration at this year’s annual meeting.

Jimmy Draper, who chaired a task force assigned to explore the name change, spoke first, explaining that his committee’s recommendation wouldn’t require action on the part of any church or entity. Approval of the recommendation would only make the descriptor name available for use for those who choose to use it.

Messengers still voiced strong opinions on both side of the issue.

“I don’t care what you call your church; I care what you call the convention,” said one messenger from Ft. Smith, Ark.

The debate continued, and it was clear the real issues were tradition and legacy versus the ability to effectively minister in non-Southern (and non-U.S.) areas. Finally, a motion from the floor was made to vote on the recommendation, but it was too close to call, requiring messengers to take to their ballots.

At his first press conference following his historic election as the convention’s first African American president, Fred Luter said he was surprised by the debate over the name change:

“Honestly, I did not think it was going to be such a big deal.  I really did not. I was there in Nashville when it was presented and discussed by the Executive Committee.  As Dr. Draper said, I thought it was going to be a win, win situation….

“One of the guys at the microphone said it best, particularly a lot of the younger guys—they are not planting churches in the South. They’re in California, they’re in other places. And they just feel that another name would help them. 

“I thought the name Great Commission Baptist was really, really good.”

It is expected that the outcome of the vote will be announced at the first session Wednesday morning.

 

Luter elected SBC President

Newly elected SBC President waves to messengers as outgoing SBC President Bryant Wright looks on.

Fred Luter wept as messengers at the Southern Baptist Convention stood giving prolonged applause to his election as the first African-American president of the denomination. A self-described street preacher, Luter was nominated by David Crosby, pastor of First Baptist Church of New Orleans as “a native New Orleanian who would likely be a candidate for sainthood if he were a Catholic–a fire-breathing, miracle-working pastor…shaking this city with the gospel.” 

Luter said, “To God be the Glory, great things He has done. I love you, Thank you.” 

Outgoing SBC president Bryant Wright prayed for Luter, who will assume the presidency at the conclusion of the annual meeting Wednesday night. 

 

Let us understand that these two views on election and salvation can coexist as long as we stay Christ centered and biblically based in our theology. So a word to these two groups. To our Calvinist friends, a bit of humility would be most welcome….
To those who call themselves traditional Southern Baptists, the time for judgmentalism is over, because judgmentalism quickly moves into slander….It is time to show some respect to those of differing views when it comes to election…and salvation.

Bryant Wright, outgoing SBC President, in his final convention sermon

On the Platform: Reformed Theology debate

Waiting for the other shoe

eric4ibsa —  June 19, 2012

Posted by Eric Reed

While most media attention here at the annual meeting is on the coming election of Fred Luter as the SBC’s first African American president, insiders are waiting for developments on two fronts: the SBC name change and the debate over salvation and Reformed theology.

Scheduled for Tuesday afternoon is the report on the adoption of “Great Commission Baptists” as an informal name for use by churches skittish to identify themselves as Southern Baptist. But the theological debate is the one drawing more discussion in the hallways.

Emerging as the flashpoint in the discussion is a statement drafted largely by Eric Hankins, pastor of First Baptist Church of Oxford, Mississippi. Hankins sought to clarify the ground he says is held by “traditional” Southern Baptists on salvation and to stanch inroads by what he called “New Calvinists.” Instead, the statement has fired off more argument over the role of choice in salvation because of a small reference that critics have called “semi-Pelagian,” an ancient doctrine viewed as heretical. More than 650 SBC pastors and leaders have signed the document so far, refuting the Pelagian accusation.  

Christianity Today online cites this issue as one that could boil over during the annual meeting: 

“There are no plans for an official salvation dialogue to take place at the conference this week, but (Boyce College professor Owen Strachan) said the meeting’s democratic nature makes it ripe for an unpredictable agenda.

“ ‘I don’t necessarily think the floor of the convention would be the best place for the cool-headed, rational debate that this issue deserves,’ (Strachan) said. ‘Even if doesn’t come up, this has already created a sense of unease in the SBC.’”

Read the CT article at http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/juneweb-only/baptists-calvinism-heresy.html

In the meantime, we wait for this year’s big floor debate: will it be name change or salvation?

 

I’m glad you’re gonna be the president of this place, dude.

— LifeWay CEO Thom Rainer to First Vice President Fred Luter on the platform of the SBC meeting in New Orleans.

On the platform: Dude

(New Orleans) — Here in New Orleans we’re seeing lots of coverage as a native son is set to become the first African American president of the SBC. Many are reporting on the race angle, but a columnist for the local paper, Jarvis DeBerry of the Times Picayune, says that’s not all that’s new about the ‘new face’ of the SBC.

Here’s an excerpt from today’s coverage:

Most of the coverage about Luter’s new position will focus on his race. That’s as it should be. It’s not insignificant that a black man will be leading a majority-white denomination. And not just any majority-white denomination, but one that was formed in defense of slavery.

But Luter as the new face of the Baptists is important for another reason. He seems to never stop smiling. If you’ve sat through as many Baptist services as I have, you might judge that a miracle. Baptists, especially Baptist pastors, have a reputation for being sour, disapproving, finger-wagging killjoys.

That’s not Fred Luter. “I love to laugh,” he said Friday morning. “I love to have a good time.”

That comes through in his sermons. It comes through in his conversation. The gospel is good news. Luter acts like it.

“If anybody has joy, if anybody has peace and happiness, it should be us,” he said. Still, the perception persists that “Baptists don’t have any fun, that we don’t laugh. We don’t have any joy. I would love to change that perception.”

“There is a new form of idolatry that is creeping into the ranks of Southern Baptists…. We’ve got to be so careful not to become Spurgeon-ites. We’ve got to be so careful not to become Calvin-ites and Arminian-ites….If we’re not careful, we’re going to become no different to the Hittites and the Jebusites and the Amalekites. Before we know it we’re just going to become another religious denomination of parasites instead of a people who lift high the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

South Carolina pastor Don Wilton preaching at the SBC Pastors Conference in New Orleans.

From the platform

Father’s Day is a lot like Mother’s Day—only you don’t have to spend as much money.

Tony Evans, speaking at the SBC Pastors Conference, which happened to be on Father’s Day

From the platform